The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast
Wednesday, July 28, 2010
Phil and Larry (mp3 download) 40mB
Twin Towers fakery
And I felt reminded of told off by Phil..
I never posted in his forum again... because the day might come that I need
to be free to post an important message.
Phil originally made a very good observation.. the POD underneath the (hologram) airplane.
please read this carefully:
MATRIX WEATHER - directs this storm - BUSH QUOTE SOLVED
Phil Jayhan Admin LetsRoll forums,
508 N. William Street
We don't tolerate the no plane, no brain crowd here.
"I've never seen so much "real world" stuff happen during an exercise."
NORAD TAPES
The sound files are good quality and they just said:
a 737 (!) just hit the world trade center, this is real world"
22:22gmt You think we should stop the exercise? LAUGHTER LAUGHTER.
Whiskey 105, Delta up there 5 3? I've got they guy calling McGuire. Is he on the way home? 401 kc10 possible Hijack No Squawk .. unconfirmed second hit. Keep calling them! team 23 New York Center. Two KC10s a lot of fuel. team 23 and team 24 airborne. Tanker is on its way back.
Second unconfirmed is United Airlines 175
Battle station is only Langley.
FAA wants to hold them in Whiskey 105.
On battle station! 2526 on battle station, Langley
I want those fighters closer in.
22:47 american 11 the original guy is still airborne
We do have a tail number... N334AA
He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do.
Unbelievable. JESUS Christ!
changing the symboligy, just going to be whatever.
25 is headed into Whiskey 106
Boston center team. We did the one home in 105, they were on a training mission.
Everybody in training send them home.
We want (Baltimore) center to maintain primary control.
I have an aircraft 6 miles east from the whitehouse!
Radar ONLY! Bravo 032 no alitude, I got em.
I don't care how many windows you break.
Syracuse stand by.
Sqawking 777! Traffic at 22000.
Delta 89 south south east of Toledo
Special track on that guy.
I talk to them, we do that homeland defence thing.
only 140 knots only 100 knots
AIRCRAFT OVER THE WHITEHOUSE
What is it? .. FIFTH AEROPLANE!! .. Cleveland!
negative clearance to fire. ID TYPE TAIL.
93 is down north east of Camp David confirmed.
He exploded, he exploded!
more:
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/...rad-tapes.html
"I've never seen so much "real world" stuff happen during an exercise."
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_2_MCC_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_4_ID_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_5_ID_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_5_ID_TK.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_7_ID2_OP.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_8_ID2_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_8_ID2_TK.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_10_TT_TK.wav.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_12_ACWO_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_14_TT_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_15_AST_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_16_AST_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_17_TT_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_17_TT_Op.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_18_TT_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_19_SD2_OP.zip
DRM2_DAT1_Channel_20_SD2_TK.zip
DRM2_DAT1_Channel_20_SD2_TK.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_21_TT_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_21_TT_Op.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_24_AICC.zip
DRM3_DAT2_Channel_24_Emerg-AICC.wav_1.zip
!!!! NORAD TAPES obtained by Loose Change crew!!!!!!!!
mp3 download the interview - transcript
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/...rad-tapes.html
Bermas: "Today we actually got the NORAD tapes" that no-one has listened to, other than the 911 commission!
"I've got through it already and they are already talking about the drills, they are talking about how flight 11, ah, you know, is still around, 20, 40 minutes after it hits the building, you know this is one of the phantom flights."
Will have more info as it becomes available.
Good stuff U2!
I threw you a karma point per your desires!
cheers-
phil
u2r2h Reader
Join Date: 22 May 2006
Merci!
I have big hopes for the NORAD tapes.
My identical message on the Loose Change forum was deleted, IP blocked, account terminated.
I guess they haven't forgiven me yet for something I said previously.
I heard Jason on shortwave radio (together with a few million others outside the US of Angst).
I thought it was great, so I also made a mp3 (download here) from that.
It's not essential listening, though.
Save your time for listening to NORAD TAPES.
I am already getting a heart-burn from just waiting
What was it that got you banned from there out of curiousity?
cheers-
phil
u2r2h Reader
Join Date: 22 May 2006
I forgot, it was a while, maybe a year, ago. Probably posted a link to something noplane (maybe something ueber-smart like *this* cartoon?).
Maybe I even said something thoughtless as well. I don't think I abused anyone or violated the rules (too flagrantly.)
Some juvenile probably just decided that I was evil, I guess.
You know how it is these days. You just say something like:
How the plane in the Hezarkhani video melts into the building is totally impossible.
and TWITCH goes the finger Happened to me on 911blogger but I am grateful that they restored me once I recanted.
Of course these days I know better. Where that is violently opposed (911blogger) I don't mention NOPLANE or TVFAKERY! Not a direct word! By inference it's not considered a crime, though.
Yet, I think the awful subject of Exotic Weaponry is hated even more (even though it is now "official" in a court document). But it is like an itch I have to scratch. It's terrible! Yesterday morning for example I discovered that the electric-blue thingie in the sky above WTC2 is pointing at the synchronous explosion in the tower (3rd pic) !!! I thought it to be a great find. Maybe it jolts people into looking for that flash in other photos of the second explosion. On top of this I previously discovered this fly-by jetliner (1st pic) in the pictures of Dave Thom, who promptly took them offline.
I guess you come from another angle but are equally suspicious.
You operate a wonderful BBS (with craaazy emoticons!) and you have to keep the ship together whereas I am just another comedienne from overseas.
I gained good insights from surfing your BBS. Some indispensable material here, respect.
keep up the good work.
PS: If this seems like tongue-in-cheek arsekissing to you, you're wrong. I mean it all.
Well thanks for the kind words. But heed my warning. We don't tolerate the no plane, (that was 2006, now Phil is a noplaner himself. Facts facts facts)
no brain crowd here. So if thats what your itching to post on, then your tenure here will be short lived. And I am not going to explain it to you. You can either respect it or not. Your choice.
I still have a bad taste about your deceptions here when you first came here. Pretending to be against the no plane crap, and then found to be a proponent of it. Neither I or anyone else here appreciates that kind of patent dishonesty.
And not many people here have an itch for exotic weaponry either. If you want to start a thread or two about it in the appropriate areas, that will be ok. But the minute you start spamming the forums with this, and bringing that argument into every thread, your gone.
Sorry I can't offer you a hearty welcome, but you lied to every single person here when you first came, pretending to be an anti-no planer, while being a proponent of it, thus you squandered all trust we might have for you and pissed it away with your lies and deceit. That was YOUR mistake. Not ours.
cheers-
phil
u2r2h Reader
Join Date: 22 May 2006
Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan ... |
Will post DeW and other wild theories only in proper area. Roger that.
Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan but you lied to every single person here when you first came, pretending to be an anti-no planer, |
Seriously, we should try to substantiate the aeroplane-debris.
Boeing parts with serial-numbers would put an end to the whole idea of "no planes"
and that would be well worth the effort.
This isn't a lie! Its the truth as I stand behind the three statements, even as a "provisional no-planer".
You think it is deception? Why did nobody ask? Do I have to state my private theories every time, expressis verbis?
So you think I gave you a bumsteer.
But hello! I debunked this Fred-guy and his theory of the video being filmed in virtual reality.
That is practically an anti-TV-fakery deed. They hate me now. You should read what Ghengis is accusing me of.
Webfairy is pissed with me and Killtown is not touching my postings with a bargepole.
BECAUSE I still believe the airplane was inserted into the (real) video, my call goes out to find aeroplane parts with serial numbers.
In fact I am making a web-log about it:
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/08/pl...-evidence.html
(its shit, don't bother looking)
The fact that I call the plane-debris "planted" doesn't mean that I would bet $100 on that it was.
Well actually I would... $100 would be a good price to pay to get a definitive answer.
Its a blog, not a science paper. Its like the yellow press. People read it, but they won't believe a word,
and good on them.
I don't care either way whether there were planes or not, I just want to clarify it. I want to have the people who did this write their memoires in jail until they are dead. (Like Rudolf Hess)
Isn't that attributable to truth-seeking?
Would I lie?
Oh, yes I would.
Does this phrase sound familiar?
"I am going to build a monument in Battery park to the no planers..."
Sound familiar?
And if you want to find out if there were planes or not, simply look at these stories; If there were no planes, and it was all CGI or blue screen bullshit, there would be no pod, no missile, no 2nd pod next to the port engine, no jet fuel spraying out the bottom of the plane, and no laser light painting the side of the WTC.
http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsit...view&ANN_id=14 (dead link now)
http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/in...view&ANN_id=16 (dead link now)
But do us all a favor, and yourself as well, and simply admit to the obvious. Quit with the bullshit. None of us here are stupid. If you feel you have evidence of something and believe that being deceptive is the way to get people to look at it, you need to do a 180, because none will listen to anything you say about it afterwards after pulling such nonsense.
cheers-
phil
u2r2h Reader
Join Date: 22 May 2006
Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan Does this phrase sound familiar? "I am going to build a monument in Battery park to the no planers..." Sound familiar? |
Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan And if you want to find out if there were planes or not, simply look at these stories; |
Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan If there were no planes, and it was all CGI or blue screen bullshit, there would be no pod, no missile, no 2nd pod next to the port engine, no jet fuel spraying out the bottom of the plane, and no laser light painting the side of the WTC. |
Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan But do us all a favor, and yourself as well, and simply admit to the obvious. Quit with the bullshit. |
THEY ARE RELEASED!!!
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/...rad-tapes.html
THEY ARE RELEASED!!!
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/...rad-tapes.html
THEY ARE RELEASED!!!
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/...rad-tapes.html
AND NOW .. fast forward to 2010!
Phil Jayhan went gaga about a
German ART-GROUP:
Tex Rubinowitz (December 5, 1961 in Hannover; actually Dirk Wesenberg) is a drawer, painter, cartoonist, travel journalist. He has been living since 1984 in Vienna.
Rubinowitz issued in the late eighties, the American Hospital Fanzine newspaper, which appeared simultaneously with the known a lot Berliner fanzine I and my vacuum cleaner, the two publications there was active Author transfer (eg Max Goldt). Following the recommendation of Robert Gernhardt Rubinowitz came to Haffmans Verlag in Zurich, where he published two issues of a periodical, including The Raven and cooperation from other numbers. He gave the publisher the authors Mauri Antero Numminen and Joachim Lottmann. As an actor he worked with Kurt and Hermes Palm Phettberg 1995 and played in the American film Before Sunrise a supporting role, which he wrote himself. As a singer he is a member of the band mice. With Gerhard Potuznik he runs the music label Angelika Köhler man. He is co-founder of the Internet Forum polite paparazzi.
As a cartoonist, he regularly published in: Falter, Frankfurter Allgemeine Sunday newspaper, The Standard, Titanic. As a travel journalist, he published regularly in the butterfly, and also appeared in Vienna in the travel magazine. Rubinowitz also writes a regular contributor to the collective blog giant machine. For the Viennese company Trzesniewski he drew the cartoons for the "unspeakable good" advertising campaign.
He is co-author of the newly opened Welcome Austria ORF television that is sent in May 2007, where he joined up in 2008 and every week when Frank Baumann, the man in the cabinet.
From 2010, curator of the exhibition series SIGN IN ROOM at the Galerie Christine König, Vienna.
Exhibitions
DANCING ISRAELIS (mossad 9-11!)
Solo Exhibitions:
* Twistory; The history of the twists. Neue Galerie am Landesmuseum Joanneum. Graz, 1999
* And for people who can not read at all, is crossed out the cigarette. Caricatura. Kassel, 1999; Palais Palffy. Vienna, 2000
* On the UNI is free radish. Christine König Gallery. Vienna, 2004
* I could force a tear out of sheer poetry of Rilke ribbon. Gallery Captain & Kampa. Zurich, 2007
Group Exhibitions:
* I Tarzan - You Felix Austria? Christine König Gallery. Vienna, 2001
* Ignition Ab ARTHAUS Kunstverein. Ahaus, 2003
* Chunk, curly and cones. Wien Museum. Wien, 2004/05
* Sharp eye. Christine König Gallery. Vienna, 2006
Publications
* The invasion of the green lint, Vienna: Falter, 1986.
* From the bathroom came wiper noise; forw.: Max Goldt. Vienna: Falter, 1992.
* On fallow arbor Vienna: Falter, 1993.
* Lost in the institution. Records of the Volunteers Schubal. (With Erich Möchel), Vienna: Deuticke Verlag 1993rd
* The sexual fantasies of the great tit. Lists that explain the world. (With Jörg Metes), Cologne: Kiepenheuer & Witsch, 1997.
* And for people who can not read at all, is crossed out the cigarette, Ca. 213 jokes and three stories on 160 pages. Zurich: Haffmans, 1999
* Twistory. The history of the twists.; Graz: Verlag Neue Galerie, 1999
* The Raven. Magazine for every kind of literature - No. 58 The first time raven. (Edited with Heiko Arntz). Zurich: Haffmans, 2000
* The Raven. Magazine for every kind of literature - No. 60 The punk and beards Rabe. (Ed. with Max Goldt). Zurich: Haffmans, 2000
* As Franz Beckenbauer came to me once too close. The Book of polite paparazzi. (Ed. with Christian Ankowitsch). Frankfurt: Eichborn, 2004
* On the UNI is a free-radish, 158 drawings and an epilogue. Vienna: Falter, 2005.
* The dusty animal; About Vienna and at Vienna. Vienna: Falter, 2006.
* Hang on, sweetheart; (Jochen Malmsheimer, illustrated by Tex Rubinowitz), Munich: Droemer Knaur, 2006.
* Mozart's bird was a genius? (Kurt Palm, illustrated by Tex Rubinowitz), Vienna: Residenz, 2007.
* Supatopcheckerbunny & Auxiliary Checker Bunny: What we thought about various topics (Ulrike mortality and Stes Wagner, illustrated by Tex Rubinowitz and Rattelschneck), Frankfurt: Fischer, 2008.
* Ramses Müller, Frankfurt: Eichborn, 2009.
* The brake Whisperer, Vienna: Falter, 2009.
Discography
Albums with mice:
* John Lennon when you enter a bar in New York, Gig Records, 1994
* Teen Riot Günther Strackture, Morbid, 1996
* Made in Japan, Morbid, 1997
ISRAELI TERRORISM - Romantic!
Editorial Reviews
Product Description
7 x 10.5 in.
40 color illustrations
Product Details
- Hardcover: 62 pages
- Publisher: Verlag Der Buchhandlung Walther Konig (February 15, 2002)
- Language: English
- ISBN-10: 3883755079
- ISBN-13: 978-3883755076
- Product Dimensions: 10.8 x 7.4 x 0.4 inches
- Shipping Weight: 12.5 ounces
US AMERICANS (Phil Jayhan) NOW BELIEVE THAT THE VIENNA ARTISTS ARE CONNECTED TO THE 911 ATTACKS.
(Phone DIRK WESENBERG at the Christine König Gallery, my god! + 43 1 585 74 74 christinekoeniggalerie.com)
Whacko Forum Poster ZOLTA said:
For sure, and Fetzer also concludes the same - they were not artists. I am a conceptual artist myself and nothing I saw would indicate to me an 'art' activity of any kind, and I felt that right from the very start.
PS - I also think that the 'art project' seen in the lobby was a part of the operation and is very important. Re-call how the frames (with people with raised arms) were just the right size to fit the window frames. The fact that they looked loke an 'art project' helped to not arouse suspicion - hence they were right out in the open for all to see - without a care that anyone would even notice.
TOTAL MADNESS !
They are NOT ISRAELI ART STUDENTS!!
From the New York Times:
Balcony Scene (Or Unseen) Atop the World; Episode at Trade Center Assumes Mythic Qualities
By SHAILA K. DEWAN
The affair of the balcony ended, if indeed it ever began, with the appearance in July of a slender book of curious title, obtainable in very few places, one of them being an art gallery in a frosted storefront on Broadway near Franklin Street.
Called ''The B-Thing'' and produced by four Vienna-based artists known collectively as Gelatin, the book is demure to the point of being oblique. What little explanation it contains appears to have been scribbled in ballpoint. Among the photos and schematic drawings, there are doodles of tarantulas with human heads.
In short, the book belies the extravagance of the feat it seems to document: the covert installation, and brief use, of a balcony on the 91st floor of the World Trade Center, 1,100 feet above the earth. Eight photographs -- some grainy, all taken from a great distance -- depict one tower's vast eastern facade, marred by a tiny molelike growth: a lone figure dressed in a white jacket, standing in a lectern-size box.
The contemporary art world, of course, is rife with acts of subversion followed by boasting, which is known as ''documentation.'' In that context, the beauty of the balcony was that it so literally pushed the envelope. Yet since that Sunday morning in March 2000, when the balcony was allegedly installed and, 19 minutes later, dismantled, the affair has taken on the outlines of an urban myth, mutated by rumors and denials among the downtown cognoscenti.
Although the book appears to seek notoriety, the artists have gone coy. Their dealer, who witnesses say watched the event from a hotel suite, now claims it never happened. Either the balcony was an elaborate hoax meant to look real, or the inverse is true: it really happened, and the closer it comes to being found out, the more those involved would prefer for everyone to think it was a hoax.
In the spring of 2000, Gelatin and 14 other artists shared free studio space on the 91st floor, where the group's artmaking appeared to consist of building a clubhouse out of cardboard boxes.
But Ali Janka, a member of Gelatin reached by phone in Vienna, said that the blindered view afforded by the narrow windows had inspired them to find a way to step outside. ''After you have a certain idea, you can't go back,'' he said, ''because everything else seems very weak compared to it.''
Mr. Janka was happy to talk about the project, at least at first. After weeks of planning, he said, one night Gelatin -- he, Florian Reither, Tobias Urban and Wolfgang Gantner -- waited in the studio until dawn. At the appointed moment, the four, wearing harnesses, unscrewed the aluminum moldings that hold the window in place and used two large suction cups to remove the glass (air pressure adds about 300 pounds to the effort). As warm air streamed past, they outfitted the window with a cantilevered box, big enough for only one person at a time.
''The amazing thing that happens when you take out a window,'' Mr. Janka said, ''is that the whole city comes into the building.''
Other artists in the studio have heard rumors of the balcony, but most are dubious. ''I can tell you that it never happened,'' said Geoffrey Detrani, whose space was next to Gelatin's. ''To remove a window would be a pretty serious structural breach.''
But Gelatin, fearing expulsion from the country, had gone to great lengths to conceal their plot. The clubhouse afforded privacy and storage. By prior agreement, the group confiscated all film and video of the project taken by invited witnesses.
Still, how did a balcony escape the notice of one of the most security-conscious office towers in the world? An examination of the security system revealed that it was focused on the ground floor and basement, Mr. Janka said, adding, ''There's no surveillance on the facade itself.''
That is true, said Cherrie Nanninga, the director of real estate for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which until recently ran the World Trade Center. Port Authority officials, shown a copy of ''The B-Thing'' by a reporter, reacted with disbelief, then outrage. Although their own investigation turned up no evidence, Ms. Nanninga said, ''we have no reason to believe it didn't happen.''
Window removal is considered so dangerous that when it is done the streets below are cordoned off, she said. ''It was really a stupid and irrational act that in my view borders on the criminal,'' she said, adding that the stunt had jeopardized the studio program, whose space is donated by the Trade Center.
Removing the window may have been dangerous, but according to Walter Friedman, the owner of Dependable Glass, which performs that service for the World Trade Center, it is not that difficult. All it takes is four guys, some readily available equipment -- and nerve, Mr. Friedman said.
Nerve is not something Gelatin lacks. They specialize in projects that require participants to sign a waiver.
In a piece called ''The Human Elevator,'' strong men on scaffolding hoisted people to the roof of a three-story building in Los Angeles. And patrons in Munich were greased with baby oil and invited to slide naked down an esophaguslike chute formed by the bellies of a crew of overweight Germans.
Although Gelatin, which is representing Vienna in the Venice Biennale, has not shrunk from physical risk, they seem to think that merely discussing the balcony with a reporter was dangerous, perhaps because they are currently seeking permission to live on a vacant lot on Canal Street, as part of a forthcoming exhibition.
''If you write about the balcony, maybe you can just not write about it too much,'' Mr. Janka called back to say after the initial interview, the first of several calls protesting the appearance of an article, despite the fact that the artists had published the book.
To others involved in the project, it seemed reasonable that the appearance of ''The B-Thing'' meant secrecy was no longer necessary. Josh Harris, the Internet entrepreneur once known for holding extravagant art parties, explained that Leo Koenig, the 24-year-old art dealer who represents Gelatin, got him involved.
The night before the B-Thing, Mr. Harris said, he rented a top-floor suite at the Millennium Hilton, across the street from the Gelatin studio, and invited people to what guests described as a night of decadence. Near dawn, he and several others took cameras and boarded a helicopter, communicating with Gelatin via cell phone.
''We had to fly twice around the building before we could see them,'' said Mr. Harris, who is thanked in the book.
Afterward, Gelatin appeared at the hotel, where their success was toasted at a euphoric breakfast, according to five other witnesses, including Tanya Corrin, a video producer and writer, and David Leslie, a performance artist. ''We just applauded the gutsy originality of it,'' Ms. Corrin said. ''I think we all left feeling, wow, we just did something amazing, and nobody knows.''
Mr. Koenig now says the balcony never happened and, at any rate, he didn't see it. The book, which costs $35 and was printed in a run of 1,200 copies, is meant to provoke questions about its veracity, he said.
At the suggestion that the project might have been faked, Mr. Harris seemed almost offended. He produced March 2000 credit card bills bearing charges of $2,167.44 from the Millennium Hilton and $1,625 from Helicopter Flight Service.
At about the same time that Mr. Harris was digging up proof, Gelatin was removing almost every trace of it from their Web site.
Moukhtar Kocache, the director of the studio program, insisted that the photos of the balcony were obviously faked. But digital manipulation experts disagreed. George Dash, the co-owner of Nucleus Imaging on East 30th Street, and a colleague, John Grasso, used magnifying loupes to examine a copy of ''The B-Thing.'' Neither could detect inconsistencies. ''The angles are all too perfect,'' Mr. Grasso said. ''It looks real to me. Absolutely. I've been doing this for 22 years.''
The balcony may be an art prank in the lineage of Yves Klein, who in 1960 disseminated a picture of himself leaping blithely out a window, an image revealed years later to be the product of deftly spliced negatives. But in its audacity, it seems more akin to tricksters who tested the limits of the World Trade Center in the 1970's, including Philippe Petit, who walked a high wire strung between the towers.
''This building needs things like that to happen, because otherwise it would die inside,'' said Mr. Janka, who was under the impression that Mr. Petit had been deported for his action.
Although the Port Authority has not yet decided what, if any, action it will take against Gelatin, Mr. Janka might be relieved to learn that Mr. Petit, who still lives in New York, was simply required to give the city a free performance. He obliged by walking a tightrope to the top of the Belvedere Castle.
Photos: Members of Gelatin in 1998, when their exhibition at the P.S. 1 Contemporary Art Center included a 25-foot walk-up tower of discarded furniture parts. (P.S. 1); Photographs from ''The B-Thing,'' a book produced by Gelatin, show someone on a temporary balcony on the World Trade Center, top; a drawing of the cantilevered balcony, above; and a view from inside the 91st-floor studio from which the balcony was hung, left. Unless the whole episode is a hoax, which some of those involved would prefer that people believe. So they say.
four were on the actual balcony team -
Alexander Janka - Ali Janka, Florian Reither, Tobias Urban and Wolfgang Gantner
TOTAL CRAP! TRUTHALLIANCE, TOO are dimwhits:
truthalliance .net / Archive/tabid/67/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3790/Default.aspx
90th floor WTC 1 B-Thing Israeli art students ready to remove a window
Phil Jayhan also purports this thoughtless nonsense.
lets roll forums.com/gelitin-pictures-t22014.html?t=22014
PHIL, just phone vienna. Christine will give you Dirk's (tex!) number.
The artist will be happy to speak to you.. what a happening.. crazy yanks, as thick as they are fat...
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